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greetings and salutations friends

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uh we are doing a rare now

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late night show uh just had some other

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things to attend to

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earlier and uh but i still want to come

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here

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and spend some time watering this

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garden yesterday we were talking about

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the hutchinson effect uh or excuse me we

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were talking about john

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um yeah and i'm noticing something in

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the live chat i'll address that

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uh so yesterday we were talking about

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john hutchison

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for those who don't know

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is a self-taught sort of electronics

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experimenter

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who became quite famous first emerging

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in about i believe it was 1979

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with many out there theories he was a

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tesla enthusiast built many tesla coils

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but it was later perhaps in the 80s and

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90s that he

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really rose to prominence and fame he's

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been on

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hundredths i did i was not aware of this

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he's been on hundreds of television

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which covered what most people would

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call his

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uh sort of fringe science

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for those that don't know uh what he's

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most famous for is something called the

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hutchison effect

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which basically he claims that

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he can cancel out gravity and there are

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very famous videos uh now

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uh of him floating everything from

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you know buckets to ice cream

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uh or having the effect of gravity

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canceled and these things fly off of a

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uh and we're gonna look at some of that

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so he's most famous for

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what is now termed the hutchison effect

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but i thought it was interesting that

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there is actually a hutchison effect

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dot com website and

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uh it's interesting in that it really

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looks like it's from

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1990 or something it looks like a

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myspace

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uh website

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and we're going to share that because i

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this has got to be run by him or at

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least a very close supporter of his

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because it lists

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a lot of different videos all the press

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that he has received all of the

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television shows that he has been on uh

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one second friends i'm gonna see if i

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it's a good idea not to use very small

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fonts on uh your website

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um so i'm gonna

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cite fair use i mean there's a website

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but we're still gonna share it because

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it's it's very interesting the

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uh sort of bio that was written for

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john hutchison paints him as a

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real visionary which is why i suspect

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that this

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but before we do that yeah uh

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i'll address the live chat karma graze

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is a bit worried about spectral

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international llc who are they

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are they privately owned and operated or

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they have uh funding arm of this show

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and john claude uh jean-claude

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nailed it when he said spectral

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international lc is an alleged arms

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length branch of the cia

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mk ultra yeah it's all it's a cia front

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jean-claude nailed it yes yes he did and

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i love that new avatar

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where can i get a cartoon avatar like

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i wanted to put that out there see if i

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could upset some people looks like i was

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right

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no actually karma gray uh nobody's upset

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most people know a spectral

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international llc

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is my company my startup

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so uh yeah i everything that i do is

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produced by

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spectral international llc which is my

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sometime after covert hit i took down

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our company

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website and other things because quite

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honestly there was

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no reason to have a website when my

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business was in the crapper

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i'm going to be putting up a new website

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which will be more focused on

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what my current business adventures are

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spectral international llc might also be

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uh

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the secret holdings of david wilcock llc

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that's my constant side eye avatar

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yeah why would that upset everyone

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anybody most people

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a few people have asked me actually who

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that was and uh

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and i yeah i just telling you that's my

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company i registered

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llc some years ago sure agent stephen

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sure

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yeah if i'm a cia disinformation agent

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vanessa thor somebody's forgetting

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somebody's mailing my checks to my old

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address because i haven't gotten a check

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lately so

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uh either i'm off the payroll or

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somebody forgot to put me on the payroll

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but i have actually been accused of that

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especially

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by people that are big supporters of bob

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lazar say that i was put here

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uh by the cia to discredit bob lazar

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okay uh and i think somebody said that

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about me

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trying to discredit billy meyer as well

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so i'm a cia chill that's trying to

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throw people off about the truth about

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aliens bro

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okay so back to uh

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i will share the screen and we'll read

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uh mr hutchinson's

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probably i'm going to call it this has

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got to be a self-written bio

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because it's so i don't know just sort

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of grandiose right

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and this is from the hutchison effect

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so john it says here john hutchison's

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life changed drastically in 1979 when

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upon starting up an array of high

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voltage equipment he

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felt something hit his shoulder

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he threw the piece of metal back to

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where it seemed to have originated and

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it flew up and hit him again

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this was how he originally discovered

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fundamental frequencies can

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shield gravity john hutchinson

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is one of the foremost nikola tesla

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experts alive today

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he has replicate i think that's supposed

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to be replicated

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i guess nobody uh proof read this

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he has replicated many of nikola tesla's

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and i gotta admit those videos that he

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interesting to watch but coming from a

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background in stage magic i looked at

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them and said

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he just put a camera upside down or

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something it does they just don't look

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where i look at them and everybody else

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can judge but to me they don't look

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when john's tesla coils electrostatic

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generator and other equipment created a

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complex electromagnetic field

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heavy pieces of metal levitated and shot

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and some pieces shredded upon analysis

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and thorough investigation

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the canadian government dubbed this

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phenomenon the hutchison effect

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what is the hutcheson effect as with

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no one can say for sure some theorists

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opposing electromagnetic fields

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canceling each other out creating

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powerful flow of space

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energy the canadian government also

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a vancouver businessman george hathaway

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heard about the hutchison effect in 1980

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from boeing aerospace in the canadian

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government to form a company that would

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promote technology developed from the

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many different political factors ensured

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continue in his research unless he

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signed agreements with other with either

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the canadian government or the us

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military base during one of john's

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funding from a different government the

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seized the opportunity to acquire all of

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who was paid upwards of seventy million

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indicate that the canadian government

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uh but i don't know about this claim

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that they paid somebody 70 million

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dollars for information and samples that

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the government also created a false pcb

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scandal so that they could use

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the local press to justify their actions

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and hide the true nature of what the

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government was actually removing from

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after many more years of experiments

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demonstrations and lectures in other

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such as usa germany and japan hutchinson

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piece by piece he built out of surplus

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navy equipment what now has become a

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has built himself an apartment

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laboratory second to none

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it took several years before he could

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reestablish his collection however

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most political john until recently had

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equipped to perform for all types of

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media demonstrations

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demonstrating the hutchinson effect

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the mayor of new westminster forced him

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to cease in 2006 then in 2010 john was

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forcibly removed by order of the mayor

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directing the fire marshal to remove him

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from his famous apartment lab

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in fifth avenue under the experiments

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section you will find john and friends

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are still developing new ideas and

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historically engineering suppressed and

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lost technologies for release and

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there's something to egyptian technology

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lost technology but atlantean technology

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little-known technology came from

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that's pretty far out there claim but

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it's nothing new

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and look at this website boy lightning

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bolts and everything

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in john's newsletter he has released

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never before seen previously classed by

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documentation from his own works as well

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as some of this department of defense

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documentation he has acquired over the

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years from government sources

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with or without official authorization

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please enjoy this independent scientists

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website and all it has to offer

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john has remained independent regardless

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of multi-million dollar offers

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to conceal his findings from the general

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public and here we have that

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that riff with some of these new energy

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guys that the government were

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multi-billion dollar corporations trying

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to buy them off and shelf their

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technology

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so they can't share it with the world

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nasa is among the agencies he has turned

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down as well as both north american

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superpowers

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offerings to privatize and militarize

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his inventions

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john believes in a world of free energy

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and the marbles of any gravity

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for the general public not just those in

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positions of power

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now that the government has destroyed

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his third laboratory and again

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taken his home from him where did john

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end up with his tiny

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fixed income and boxes of his broken

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dreams a german research team bought his

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entire new westminster apartment

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laboratory after seeing demonstrations

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of this effect of his effect and gave

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him enough

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seed money to take his whole new show on

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the road with his new wife nancy

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as john travels the usa in his newly

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converted

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swat bus mobile laboratory

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he treats polluted waters of the gulf

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with the hutchison effect and researches

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different

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possible pollution solutions from his

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mobile command

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center so he's living in an rv

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he also remains hopeful his inventions

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one day will ease the burden and

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suffering and enrich all mankind around

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the world rich or poor

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in the end the government didn't crash

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his spirit and destroy his dreams

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they set him loose john roams the planet

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quite freely now with his wife and

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explores

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nature's mysteries to this very day we

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hope you enjoy the website

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and if you feel desire to participate in

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john's adventure

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all you will need to do is email him i

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just want to mention that i did email

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mr hutchison for a uh an interview

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and did not hear back from him uh

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i you know this website looks pretty old

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i don't know if anybody's still checking

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it

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and by the way yeah you can make a

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paypal donation or you can sign up for

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his newsletter

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uh there's a newsletter that he puts out

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about his research

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so we'll stop sharing that because the

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lightning bolts are going to give me a

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headache

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so john hutchinson has made

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some really out there various claims

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about his laboratories getting raided i

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did happen to see

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some paperwork uh that proved that the

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canadian government raided his

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one of his laboratories so there is a

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paper trail that proved that they did

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raid his laboratory but it was

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was apparently over health and safety

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violations you can google john

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hutchison's apartment and then you'll

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understand why

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they may have raided his uh his

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apartment i'm not sure if the whole

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narrative that he's telling that the

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government's trying to steal his

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research

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credible

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i'm unsure so i'm not going to make a

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determination on that

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just mentioning uh

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okay yeah we're gonna

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put a user in timeout this is the second

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time in two days i've had to put

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a user in timeout and it's the same user

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uh play nice or don't come here

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yeah uh preg magic i

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or out of mind i i believe i agree with

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you

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can boot him if he comes back and he

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says anything nasty anybody just boot

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him

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yeah so uh

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the effect the hutchison effect

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here's what i find suspect about the

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effect it's like a catch-all

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it's tied into the philadelphia

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experiment like he can

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phase matter in and out of existence

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with it

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it's anti-gravity he can make things

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float

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make things move with it uh at least he

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claims that he can

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and we'll unpack some more of that but

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uh i found a really good video of uh

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sort of the best clips of his old eight

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millimeter he made these movies some of

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these movies in the 70s and 80s

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and but somebody's you know he's

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digitized them or whatever

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and they've been on youtube for years

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and people have talked about this

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hutchinson effect

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people have tried to recreate and prove

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that the effect

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exists one of the problems that i have

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with

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mr hutchinson is that if you ask him how

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the hutchison effect works

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he'll give you different answers almost

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every time he's asked he doesn't have a

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consistent

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theory for how this works why this works

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what makes it work it's very confusing

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and uh it sort of offers a word salad

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you know

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quantum vibrations and

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really if i've been following him for a

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very long time i've heard him on

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numerous different television shows

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talking about his hutchison

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effect and in inevitably they always do

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the same thing they play his

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really grainy old videos of stuff

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floating

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and then he talks in circles about how

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it works why it works

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and we don't i don't i just don't

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understand i i maybe i'm just a stupid

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monkey and i'm not smart enough to

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understand what he's trying to allege

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but essentially he's alleging that he's

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using

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ultra high voltages and ultra high

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frequencies

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to make this effect work i'm going to

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cite fair use

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this is transformative work we're

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educating the public

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and about the hutchinson effects we're

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going to say fair use as we share

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a video here of the hutchinson effect

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and this is a good one because it's

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pretty brief and it shows like

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all of the best uh of the different

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videos of this

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floating effect for from john hutchison

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i'd like to know in the live chat after

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we see this if you think that this is a

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real

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effect or do you think that this was

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hoaxed or staged somehow where

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they will levitate unbelievable there's

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a blowing wall

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electricity goes right into the objects

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and

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a million pieces just fly apart

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[Music]

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yeah and here's a good shot one of the

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other hutchison effects is

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is basically it looks like a directed

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energy weapon of some sort that

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melts even titanium

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at a cellular level somehow and he's

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made various claims about this

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showed samples of this and people have

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looked at it and said

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it could have been melted with a welding

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torch or some high temperature source

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nobody's quite sure but he's got tons of

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these samples that he shows

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that he claims he transmuted or changed

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the structure of the metal with this

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hutchison effect like i said this is not

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just

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anti-gravity it's all kinds of different

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strange effects

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[Music]

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and jumping off to the ceiling or simply

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go up hover

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yeah and that's interesting because it's

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essentially a cup of ice

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that he's floating and i think we're

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going to see ice cream too somewhere

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here

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it wasn't just metal it really wasn't

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just some big magnets or something

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like that

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there's the ice cream

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and of course all these all of these

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uh videos are from websites that want to

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sell you something like

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you know build an anti-gravity generator

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plans

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one second there we go i always forget

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to stop the video and then we get this

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sort of and i found another video where

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he's showing the metal samples that have

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been affected by this hutchison effect

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so we're going to cite fair use um but i

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i want you to think about

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this this floating effects does this

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look real to you or does this look

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like it was staged or hoaxed or you know

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does it look like a magic trick to you

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maybe i'm uh sort of biased or something

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but to me this looks like

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it doesn't look credible it doesn't look

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real

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but let's take a look at the oh i have

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another video here i'm going to cite

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fair use and share

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this is transformative work we're

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educating the public

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about john hutchison and the hutchinson

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effect

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this one has him talking about the

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effect and its effects on metals

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and he shows all these weird metal

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samples that look like they were burnt

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melted transmuted somehow changed really

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uh torn apart really and i suppose that

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also just worthy of note that people

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have claimed

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i think even he claimed i could be wrong

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but definitely people have claimed

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that it was a john hutchison effect

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death ray that was used to make 911

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happen

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somehow transmuted the metal and the

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beams

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and made the building fall that's an out

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there theory not one that i

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condone or support or believe is true

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just mentioning it

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because it's relevant because

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uh people have claimed that the

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hutchison effect had something to do

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with how the government staged

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911 so

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let's check out this other video again

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oh wait a second

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let's try that again

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fair use

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wood mixed in with the structure itself

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and we're not sure exactly on the sample

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how much wood

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maybe a cubic inch or more inside here

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and coming to other samples we find

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again

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samples that have ripped themselves

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apart and rejoined

572
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,480
as you can see in this little sample

573
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,720
here

574
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:07,039
and then we come to breaks that indicate

575
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,400
actually a lot of stress

576
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:10,320
and there's a nice clean cut and looks

577
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:12,080
like a bent stress

578
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:16,080
so this is broken in a fashion perhaps

579
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:16,720
like that

580
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:19,279
and then on the other side of the coin

581
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:20,720
kind of something that looks like it was

582
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,640
ripped apart or turned to jelly and

583
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:24,320
ripped apart and frozen in the time and

584
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:25,520
space

585
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,640
this large moon yeah so uh

586
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:30,240
again these are various claims of john

587
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:33,200
hutchison or citing fair use

588
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,640
this is a transformative work we're

589
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,240
educating the public about

590
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:38,320
john hutchinson and his various claims

591
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,279
concerning what is

592
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,679
commonly called the hutchison effect

593
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:43,039
named after him

594
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,200
an example again extrusion alloy

595
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,320
was once one piece and was totally

596
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,960
formed like this after some experiments

597
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,960
actually seen on video

598
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,200
we come to more hard materials such as

599
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:00,400
stainless steel and it just

600
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:03,840
i don't know why the video keeps jumping

601
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,919
and twist it around a lot of little pot

602
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:09,919
marks and pieces falling out of it

603
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,720
again similar to the large piece of

604
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:14,159
steel that i just mentioned

605
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:17,600
for being the very first sample

606
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,039
and this is just many of many

607
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,799
samples that i do have and that other

608
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:24,240
people do have that

609
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:27,760
still are undergoing analysis yes and uh

610
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,799
it should also be noted that uh john

611
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,840
hutchison

612
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,600
famously would when people would visit

613
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,600
his lab he would just give these pieces

614
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,120
of metal to people

615
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,279
and but so far i haven't been able to

616
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:40,960
find any mention of anybody

617
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:42,399
scientifically testing

618
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,360
these samples to see if they could

619
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:47,760
determine what caused these deformations

620
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:48,159
or

621
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,880
almost weekly on what has happened here

622
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,640
on conventional physics it take

623
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,000
terawatts of power to do

624
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,039
this there's no radio waves

625
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,279
or anything that can do this there's no

626
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,480
electrostatic

627
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:10,320
fields or lightning bolts that can do

628
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:13,360
this um

629
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:16,960
so in a way the theory is a key way is

630
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,679
made up

631
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:20,080
of electromagnetic and electrostatic

632
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,159
fields that i produce

633
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,200
opening a doorway into another dimension

634
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:28,000
that allows any kind amount of energy to

635
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:29,360
come in and do this

636
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:33,990
yeah and again here we're getting an

637
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:36,000
explanation that he's opening a doorway

638
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,200
to another dimension

639
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:39,840
and the energy to create and and deform

640
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:41,440
these metals is coming from another

641
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,799
dimension somehow

642
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,960
and this is just one of the many things

643
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,960
i've heard him say about how this effect

644
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:47,760
works

645
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,039
people have

646
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,200
theorized that he's simply using super

647
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:54,720
high voltage

648
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,720
uh you know ion ray guns uh

649
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:00,960
yeah an ion ray gun is a real thing you

650
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:02,799
can make an ion ray gun

651
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,760
and shoot uh something with charge it

652
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:07,120
with tons of ions

653
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:10,240
and get strange effects um

654
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,360
high voltage uh he's got access to

655
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:15,039
things like tesla coils

656
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,480
so he could definitely be using high

657
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,320
voltage to produce these effects but

658
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,080
again

659
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,559
i've never gotten a clear and concise

660
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,640
explanation from mr hutchison

661
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:27,440
despite watching probably every video

662
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:28,080
i've ever

663
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:31,279
and documentary and every one of his tv

664
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,640
appearances just about him

665
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,320
i'm pretty sure i've seen well not all

666
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,679
of them i guess because he was on a lot

667
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,440
of foreign television shows

668
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:39,679
talking about this effect but we don't

669
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:40,640
ever get

670
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:42,960
he can't tell us how he does it he

671
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,559
doesn't even know how he does it

672
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,600
he's just showing us a bunch of stuff

673
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,600
flying up in the air and a bunch of

674
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,200
metal uh

675
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,840
that is having strange effects cannot

676
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,960
tell us

677
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,360
like he could not explain to an

678
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,520
electronics engineer

679
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:02,000
what exactly he uses to generate this

680
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,120
effect

681
00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:05,840
and um it must be on the order of

682
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:08,260
terawatts to do this

683
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,440
[Music]

684
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,559
we've had larger samples of course fall

685
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:13,760
apart

686
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,679
basically again it seems to come back

687
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,760
into a circle that

688
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:23,919
the universe supplies all the energy

689
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:25,760
needed

690
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:29,679
for mankind and also for uh propulsion

691
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,279
and space travel yes and so he's

692
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:36,000
essentially claiming that these energy

693
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:37,679
these effects are being caused by

694
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,159
energy that he is pulling from the ether

695
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:42,320
again with the ether and nikola tesla's

696
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:43,520
original

697
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,799
theories the sort of pre-einsteinian

698
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,240
understanding of physics that there's

699
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:50,159
this ether all around us and there's

700
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:53,840
a sea of energy all around us

701
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,720
which i still think maybe there may be

702
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:58,320
some truth to that

703
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:01,760
assertion and uh that theory

704
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,120
but again this is

705
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,360
this vague explanation of uh you know

706
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,279
i'm pulling energy from the vacuum

707
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,960
this is from zero point that's causing

708
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:12,399
these effects

709
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:18,240
in the presence he has never produced

710
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:19,919
these effects in the presence

711
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:23,360
of a impartial observer or

712
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,480
credible scientist um and has been

713
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,159
caught hoaxing things we're gonna

714
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,880
more on that in a moment i don't go into

715
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:32,000
mathematics at all

716
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:35,440
i visualize things and always joust

717
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,720
so to speak uh the conventional

718
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,240
scientists or the scientists

719
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,000
with the mathematics was saying that

720
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,880
intuition is a shortcut through math

721
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,880
i visualize this and i put in the best

722
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:48,240
words so that i can

723
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:51,760
find i can actually see the atom

724
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,320
i can see the different interactions of

725
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,120
the dimensions inside of an atom

726
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:59,600
and i can explain it in those terms

727
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,399
visualize it

728
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,880
and actually do it physically but

729
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:04,240
mathematically

730
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:07,679
i am a basket case when it comes to

731
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:11,440
trying to understand mathematics

732
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,000
well for that i can't blame them for for

733
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:15,919
those that don't know

734
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:19,600
and background computer science and uh

735
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:22,320
i struggle with math like i'm fine with

736
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,440
regular you know

737
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,960
numbers but as soon as you start

738
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:26,880
throwing letters and

739
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:29,840
formulas it gets confusing really fast

740
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:30,159
so

741
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,440
for that i don't blame them and um

742
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,240
use math and quantity like in

743
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,559
electricity i need mathematics

744
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:41,200
in electromechanical engineering i need

745
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:42,480
mathematics just

746
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:46,000
basic measurements but it comes to the

747
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:46,880
exotic math

748
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,760
i'm a lost cause so i must rely on

749
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,840
intuition

750
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,679
which gives me a lot more to see and a

751
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:55,679
lot more to do i believe in putting

752
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,679
doing it making the thing in reality

753
00:33:01,990 --> 00:32:59,120
instead of just

754
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:02,000
drawing up a lot of numbers that's a

755
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,360
little bit of backbiting but there's a

756
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,440
lot around the world scientists very

757
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,600
high-powered scientists were involved in

758
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:09,600
the old star wars program talking a lot

759
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,200
of us now

760
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,120
they get into the psychic aspects of it

761
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,559
also the

762
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:17,440
physics aspect of it also a lot of the

763
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:18,080
work is

764
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:21,200
um coming out released

765
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,559
lawrence livermore uh still los

766
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:26,720
alamos is a little tight it's slowly

767
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,600
loosening up

768
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,480
colonel alexander now is into remote

769
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:31,919
viewing

770
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,080
uh he's the head fellow involved in

771
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,960
non-lethal weapon technology

772
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:39,039
i made an appearance on a program called

773
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:40,320
encounters

774
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:44,480
ed gaines is now out of the income group

775
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:47,519
security command group yes and uh

776
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,799
i guess worthy of note is that a lot of

777
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,240
people have connected

778
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,399
john hutchinson and the hutchinson

779
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,880
effect with the star wars program

780
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,799
um saying that they were going to be

781
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,799
using a directed energy weapon which

782
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,960
goes back to nikola tesla

783
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:05,200
um directed energy weapons are really

784
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,480
the

785
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,119
i guess invented or envisioned by

786
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,280
originally by nikola tesla

787
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:14,159
and hutchison is famous for recreating

788
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:14,560
uh

789
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:17,679
basically a tesla death ray when i was

790
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:19,359
on sightings

791
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:22,720
so there's a wave of media also coming

792
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:27,040
forth such as these programs showing

793
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:31,200
what is really going on even abc and nbc

794
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:34,240
did a special on his remote feeling true

795
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:35,200
or false and

796
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,280
they've got a positive

797
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,320
situation on one half hour program and

798
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,720
abc i believe i don't want to dig

799
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,960
networks in the states

800
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,079
so there's a lot of breakthrough in

801
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:50,159
media coming slowly but it's coming out

802
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,679
more and more

803
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:53,679
and again we just see these effects of

804
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,000
things wiggling and moving and

805
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,720
looks very strange to me and this will

806
00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:00,160
give people something to look at and

807
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,800
think about

808
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,520
i think the mind connect is also a uh

809
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,599
cohere of frequencies and transmit to

810
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,440
mug and then walk this doorway

811
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,160
into space and time some measurements at

812
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:11,520
stanford university

813
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,069
lawrence livermore had dr henry strap

814
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:21,760
uh william tiller put it at around 22

815
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:26,000
to 24 uh centimeter wave weight then

816
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,640
that a lot of this activity happens

817
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,160
never seen more floating effects

818
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,280
the cats are quite exhausted and um

819
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:35,680
quite expensive given a lot of

820
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:41,190
with mcdonald's douglas they doing

821
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:43,599
multitude of spoon bending

822
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,520
where they take control samples and then

823
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,599
of course open minded electron scanning

824
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,160
microscope to see if they were bent by

825
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:53,680
force or by my mind and here we see the

826
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:54,480
famous

827
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:57,440
being floating ice cream of princeton

828
00:36:01,829 --> 00:35:58,320
university

829
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:01,839
who also is connected to mcdonald's

830
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,400
and i'm not surprised even now if they

831
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:06,000
have come across a

832
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,200
formula on this

833
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:12,240
area of physics which has to be included

834
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:13,680
everything is connected to everything

835
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:16,560
else in my opinion psychic

836
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:20,320
to um hardcore physics let's say

837
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:23,520
out of fringe physics time and space

838
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:26,880
cosmology you name it yeah fringe

839
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:27,520
science

840
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,320
for sure now uh there's one final video

841
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,079
for our presentation i'd like to share

842
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:36,880
again citing fair use and uh this is a

843
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:38,079
video that gives me

844
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,359
a lot of concern if i

845
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,480
want to believe mr hutchinson and his in

846
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:46,560
if i want to believe in his hutchinson

847
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,680
effect

848
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:50,560
at various uh numerous times really he

849
00:36:54,130 --> 00:36:51,520
has been caught

850
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:54,140
faking floating effects

851
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:55,359
[Music]

852
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,280
probably one of the most famous is for a

853
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,119
television show and they caught him

854
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,520
using wires

855
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,079
and we're going to see an example of

856
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,000
that

857
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,280
one second friends and this video is

858
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:10,880
simply titled hutcheson

859
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:14,240
is a fraud and this is

860
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,390
asked to demonstrate anti-gravity

861
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:22,320
effects for a television show

862
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:31,430
there's no sound in this video friends

863
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:34,400
so we see a little ufo flying saucer but

864
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,680
the problem is

865
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:38,720
they forgot to move the string

866
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:42,079
here in the upper left hand corner

867
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:46,000
out of the frame and it's

868
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:48,480
clearly a string moving back and forth

869
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,230
and that's very disappointing um

870
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,240
again to my knowledge he has not

871
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:00,800
demonstrated things floating like

872
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:04,000
for a television show with observers uh

873
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,880
or for anyone really with impartial

874
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,400
observers

875
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:11,040
when asked to demonstrate this is the

876
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:12,000
kind of thing that

877
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:19,670
definitely does not help his credibility

878
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:30,550
clearly this thing is on a string

879
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,190
and it looks like maybe you can no i

880
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:34,720
guess maybe you can only see the string

881
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,359
in a certain portion of the video

882
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:39,599
so i guess mr hutchison needs better

883
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,400
editing

884
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:42,079
when he's going to show off his

885
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:43,520
anti-gravity effects

886
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:46,720
to the world

887
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:51,440
yeah and so uh there is a

888
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:55,520
there's a the skeptic's dictionary has

889
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,640
an entry

890
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,040
uh on mr hutchison that is extremely

891
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:00,960
interesting

892
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:04,880
um i'm not going to read this entire

893
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,829
but they call it the hutchison hoax and

894
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,280
they say it's named after eccentric

895
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:13,280
canadian john hutchison a fan of nikola

896
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:14,000
tesla

897
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,240
have discovered a number of weird things

898
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,560
such as the levitation of heavy objects

899
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:23,280
yeah most famously probably a bowling

900
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:23,920
ball

901
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:26,720
in all of his videos floating a bowling

902
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:27,200
ball

903
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,920
that's big heavy object levitation of

904
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,920
heavy objects and the fusion of metal

905
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:32,960
and wood

906
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,160
by forces heretofore undetected by

907
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:38,079
normal scientists hudson calls these

908
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,680
weird things the hutchison effect some

909
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,200
of the things he calls

910
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:44,240
weird seems to be explainable in terms

911
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:46,079
of electromagnetism and other known

912
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:47,680
physical forces

913
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:50,240
but he has more mysterious explanations

914
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,880
such as

915
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,960
zero point energy and electromagnetic

916
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,200
fields that cancel out gravity

917
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:57,200
unfortunately he seems to be the only

918
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:58,640
one who can produce

919
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,680
the these effects but not even he can

920
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:03,359
replicate them at least not in the

921
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:04,480
presence

922
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:07,920
of observers his evidence consists

923
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,119
majorly of just his word and his

924
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,040
self-produced videos

925
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,040
one suggestion made by skeptics is that

926
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:17,040
hutchinson uses an electromagnet on the

927
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,880
ceiling and places hidden

928
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,880
pieces of metal inside objects so they

929
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,560
will be attracted to the magnet he could

930
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,480
then film the objects

931
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:26,560
uh with an upside down camera as he

932
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,359
powers down the electromagnetic

933
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,839
powers down the electromagnet making the

934
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:33,839
objects on film appear to float up and

935
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,640
out of the

936
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:37,040
shot when in reality they are falling

937
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,640
down to the floor

938
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,560
so he may be running things in reverse

939
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:42,240
using electromagnets people have

940
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,440
theorized many different

941
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,160
ways that he could be hoaxing this many

942
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,079
of the videos include

943
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:50,240
conspicuous objects in the sense which

944
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:51,119
do not move

945
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,680
such as an old broom which could be

946
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:54,800
deliberate

947
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:58,240
illusion that the camera is not upside

948
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,960
down

949
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,640
critics also point out that the videos

950
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,160
do not show

951
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:04,079
what happens to the objects after they

952
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,200
levitate

953
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,200
his laboratory in his garage kitchen and

954
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:08,960
other rooms is his laboratory

955
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,960
is in his garage kitchen and other rooms

956
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,160
in his apartment

957
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,319
much as of his apparatus seems to have

958
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:16,079
come from military surplus stores we

959
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:17,760
mentioned that on yesterday's shows he

960
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:18,880
is a

961
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,920
um a collector of

962
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:24,319
military surplus electronics items

963
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:25,119
whether it's

964
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,119
radar arrays uh big huge military

965
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,240
capacitors power transformers

966
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,079
all kinds of things this guy's got in

967
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,920
his collection

968
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,440
uh hutchinson came on the scene around

969
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,440
1979 and he has not been able to

970
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,119
convince the scientific community that

971
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,599
is anything more than a crackpot

972
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,359
the same qualities that repulse the

973
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,280
scientific community in dear hutchinson

974
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,359
to the mass media the lone wolf genius

975
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:51,680
with no degrees or academic background

976
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,560
who shows the world you don't need uh

977
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,800
you don't need no education to find a

978
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,560
source of unlimited energy that costs

979
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,040
nearly

980
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,160
nothing of course goes without saying

981
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,079
that there will always be military

982
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:05,760
persons attracted to the claims like

983
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,079
those made by hutchinson

984
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,680
what general wouldn't want an army of

985
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,000
levitating soldiers with unlimited power

986
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,319
packs that cost away next to nothing

987
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,560
imagine tanks and planes protected by

988
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:18,160
shields like those that protect the

989
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,200
starship enter

990
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,760
enterprise it goes on to say that

991
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:23,280
hunterson has been profiled on the

992
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,960
discovery channel the learning channel

993
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,200
national geographic channel

994
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,520
and nippon television he's also featured

995
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,280
in discussing various fringe science

996
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:33,040
newsletters and website there's even a

997
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,560
website devoted

998
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,800
to his various hoaxes of course some

999
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,560
people take hutcheson seriously for

1000
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:40,400
example mel winfield

1001
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:43,359
even claims that he came up with the

1002
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:44,720
hutchinson effect first

1003
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:47,119
its proper name according to winfield is

1004
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:47,920
nucleonic

1005
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,480
energy according to weekly wikipedia

1006
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:52,560
nucleonic energy is a technological

1007
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,280
concept developed by canadian

1008
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,599
uh inventor mel winfield is energy

1009
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:59,440
obtained from the angular movement of

1010
00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,839
the

1011
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:02,480
nucleons protons and neutrons within an

1012
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,119
atomic

1013
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,160
nucleus where that's a mouthful

1014
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,240
whereas gravity dictates that the spin

1015
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:10,560
axis of nucleons or arena towards the

1016
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:11,359
center of the earth

1017
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:14,319
nucleonic energy allows for the axis to

1018
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,079
be reversed or directed

1019
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,920
in any desired direction in order to

1020
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:19,440
produce

1021
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,270
yeah finally there is a website devoted

1022
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:27,599
solely to 911 anomalies at the world

1023
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:28,560
trade center

1024
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:29,839
that are being attributed to the

1025
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,560
hutchinson effect by dr judy wood and

1026
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,400
and hutchinson himself so i was right

1027
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,160
hutchinson believed

1028
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,200
or stated that 911 was caused by his

1029
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,960
hutchinson effect in the form of some

1030
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:42,880
sort of death ray that melted and

1031
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:45,359
transmuted the beams of the world trade

1032
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,870
it's quite inventive many breeders will

1033
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,720
be surprised to find that the free

1034
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,319
energy technology related to the

1035
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,400
hutchinson effect technology was used to

1036
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:58,560
destroy the majority of the world trade

1037
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,359
center complex on 9 11.

1038
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:04,079
so uh friends uh this will conclude our

1039
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,440
short reasons we have a short

1040
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:07,040
presentation tonight

1041
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,119
and uh i guess i could try to do some

1042
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:13,440
sort of wrap up and here's what i'll say

1043
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,040
i i've been following this john

1044
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,119
hutchison for a while

1045
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:19,280
and for various reasons not just the

1046
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,880
hutchison effect

1047
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:23,520
i followed him because i like fringe

1048
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:24,240
science

1049
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,000
nikola tesla and

1050
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:30,079
free energy devices and strange

1051
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:31,359
electronics and

1052
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,880
things and lasers and uh yeah so i've

1053
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,640
followed him for

1054
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,400
probably since i first heard about him

1055
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:40,400
20 years ago i suppose

1056
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:43,920
or saw him on a documentary uh

1057
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,800
but what do i think about his claims i

1058
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,880
find his claims less than credible

1059
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,200
for the reasons i've previously stated

1060
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:53,599
he cannot explain to me

1061
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,480
how this effect works and you know i get

1062
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:58,000
the nutty professor

1063
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,280
sort of uh persona but

1064
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:04,400
you gotta tell us how it works and the

1065
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:05,280
other thing is

1066
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:08,640
i'm a big fan of science being provable

1067
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:12,400
and that is independently repeatable

1068
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:15,839
um if if i were to give him credit for

1069
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:17,200
something it would be these crystal

1070
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:18,079
power cells

1071
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:21,440
because they are repeatable

1072
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,880
anybody can listen to him

1073
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,800
explain how to build a crystal power

1074
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:28,079
cell

1075
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,760
and build one and it works uh maybe not

1076
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,119
exactly

1077
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,599
as his do because he's got i don't know

1078
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:37,040
20 years of experience building them

1079
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,520
maybe

1080
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:40,400
builds them better builds them you know

1081
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:40,720
but

1082
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:43,520
in general the crystal power cells he

1083
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,880
describes

1084
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,800
are repeatable and what does that mean

1085
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:48,400
that means anybody

1086
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,079
with the scientific interest in the

1087
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,560
crystal power cells as he describes can

1088
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:54,000
get the ingredients

1089
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,119
get the parts and make one and it works

1090
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,319
the hutchison effect is not repeatable

1091
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,800
uh so far to my knowledge though i will

1092
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,800
say there are many people on youtube

1093
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:05,920
making videos

1094
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:08,880
of uh something that they call the

1095
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,319
hutchison effect

1096
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:12,960
but mostly what you see is people

1097
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,599
shooting

1098
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,480
very high frequency ultrasonic waves at

1099
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:18,319
things and making them shake shutter and

1100
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:19,200
move

1101
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:22,880
that's not levitation that's

1102
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:25,440
simple physics shooting enough if you

1103
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,560
shoot enough

1104
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:29,760
ultrasound you know if you s su shoot

1105
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,160
enough

1106
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:32,160
ultrasonic waves at something at high

1107
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,520
enough frequencies low enough

1108
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,040
frequencies

1109
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,839
high enough energy amperages whatever

1110
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:39,839
you're gonna see things shutter and

1111
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:40,640
shake

1112
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,000
that's not reproducing to my mind

1113
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:46,560
uh that is not reproducing the hutchison

1114
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,040
effect

1115
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:50,079
as he has displayed it showed it and

1116
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:51,520
talked about it

1117
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:54,839
no one to my knowledge has been able to

1118
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,240
uh has been able to reproduce

1119
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,880
his floating effects or even these metal

1120
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:02,720
effects

1121
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:06,640
so um while i'm at the i'm still a big

1122
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,599
fan of his

1123
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:10,720
is he a hoaxer he's been caught floating

1124
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:11,359
a

1125
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:46,720
fringe

1126
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,000
science topics and also i suppose i

1127
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,160
respect him for being

1128
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:55,200
able to reproduce a great deal of nikola

1129
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:56,559
tesla's experiments

1130
00:48:02,790 --> 00:47:59,760
that has not ever been in

1131
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:02,800
you know that has never been denied he

1132
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:05,359
has reproduced a great number of

1133
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:07,760
nikola tesla's machinery equipment and

1134
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:10,640
experiments being a big nikola tesla fan

1135
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,319
and i gotta tell you try it it's not

1136
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,400
easy to build anything that tesla built

1137
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,000
including tesla coils they're

1138
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,920
really difficult to build i mean it's

1139
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,599
not they're not impossible but you have

1140
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,680
to be pretty smart guy to build

1141
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,240
anything that nikola tesla built or

1142
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:28,000
reproduce it

1143
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,599
so i think that there is like i said

1144
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,440
there is some value especially in these

1145
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:35,280
crystal power cells but again as we

1146
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,480
covered yesterday

1147
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,680
and we will cover i guess tomorrow there

1148
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,079
are people that dispute that he

1149
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,400
invented or discovered crystal power

1150
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:45,839
cells merely that he

1151
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,960
lifted the idea and experiment with it

1152
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,599
got good results and ran with it

1153
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,160
the other most notable person or

1154
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,920
experimenter

1155
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:58,240
and uh usually considered much more

1156
00:49:03,670 --> 00:48:59,040
credible

1157
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:03,680
than mr hutchison is john bedini

1158
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:07,280
uh and john bedini is

1159
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,240
another one of these free energy uh sort

1160
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,760
of characters but

1161
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,839
a little more serious john bedini is

1162
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:14,960
much more serious

1163
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,280
and sort of talks and acts and looks

1164
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,119
like a scientist

1165
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:21,359
and i guess he's generally regarded as

1166
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,880
being more credible

1167
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,119
so there is certainly somewhat of a

1168
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:27,040
split in sort of this free energy

1169
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,160
subculture

1170
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,640
some people say john hutchinson just

1171
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,640
ripped this idea off of bedini

1172
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,040
and then nah i don't know that bidini's

1173
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,800
ever commented on it but there is a

1174
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:38,960
great number of videos of bidini

1175
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,160
making these crystal power cells and

1176
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:45,280
uh things like that as well so there's a

1177
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:47,200
bit of a split there some people say no

1178
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,920
hutchinson

1179
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,240
invented them first and john bedini

1180
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:52,160
heard about it from hutcheson

1181
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,599
i don't know if they know each other or

1182
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,640
are friends i'd be interested to

1183
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,559
to know that but seeing as how it's such

1184
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,280
a tiny subculture sort of like the ufo

1185
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:03,760
subculture everybody probably knows

1186
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,160
everybody

1187
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:08,800
uh so you know friends that's uh my

1188
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:12,079
presentation now i'm gonna devote my

1189
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:20,950
oh there we go i was not aware of that

1190
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:23,119
scientist who claims to have replicated

1191
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:24,480
hutchinson effect dr

1192
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,599
stoyan sard a bulgarian born canadian

1193
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:29,680
holds an engineering diploma and a phd

1194
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,400
in physics

1195
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:32,720
yeah i'll look that up conspiracy

1196
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,440
absolutely

1197
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,200
i want to i want to see if somebody can

1198
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:36,960
replicate it

1199
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:39,040
he worked for 17 years on space projects

1200
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,720
with former soviet union

1201
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,280
and 17 years with canadian space agency

1202
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,200
at canadian universities then he would

1203
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,720
seem to be a credible source then

1204
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:48,240
conspiracy right

1205
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,000
so i could be an error maybe somebody

1206
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:52,400
has re if somebody can replicate the

1207
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:53,520
effect

1208
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:56,880
as shown in mr hutchinson's video

1209
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:00,800
i would be surprised and then i would be

1210
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:04,160
much more willing to believe mr

1211
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,200
mr hutchison's claims

1212
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,720
if it's all true those instances of

1213
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:12,640
fakery are similar to the enfield

1214
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:15,359
poltergeist flubs

1215
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,200
yeah i i seem to recall something about

1216
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:20,960
that prank magic where they

1217
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:24,319
they uh you know couldn't always get the

1218
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,440
effect so when the

1219
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:27,040
doing the camera you know when they

1220
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:28,559
really need it to prove you know

1221
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:31,599
show something they resorted to trickery

1222
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:34,880
and uh people have claimed that about

1223
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:37,680
some psychics that have been caught

1224
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,040
faking stuff like

1225
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,680
rory geller like maybe he did have those

1226
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:43,920
super powers but they left them or they

1227
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,760
weren't reliable and when

1228
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:47,760
when he was under pressure to create

1229
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,280
effects he resorted to trickery

1230
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:54,240
it's still a stretch to me i can see

1231
00:52:02,470 --> 00:51:56,559
lots of second-hand gossip about york

1232
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:05,030
thanks vanessa thor we'll look into okay

1233
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:06,079
let's see what do we

1234
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:10,400
miss okay dennis coach is here and says

1235
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,440
nucleon

1236
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:14,400
spin and gravity are not causally

1237
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:15,280
connected

1238
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,040
now i'm not a physicist you could be

1239
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,910
vanessa thor says i'm a big fan of

1240
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,520
science being you know science

1241
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,079
scientific method science yeah

1242
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:28,559
it's got to be repeatable uh by

1243
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:30,000
independent sources

1244
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,910
it's got he's got to be able to uh

1245
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:41,920
he's got to be able to reproduce it in

1246
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:44,559
order to prove that it's real and true

1247
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,280
and i don't think that's asking too much

1248
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,640
if you're claiming that you can float

1249
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,000
bowling balls in your

1250
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,440
garage with uh you know surplus military

1251
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:54,800
electronics equipment

1252
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:58,160
first of all he's never said exactly

1253
00:53:01,430 --> 00:53:00,319
what he uses to produce the effect he's

1254
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,440
always very vague

1255
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,839
you know well i use electrostatic fields

1256
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,520
and uh

1257
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,280
okay electrostatic fields could be

1258
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:09,119
anything it could be tesla coils it

1259
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:10,480
could be ion

1260
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,599
guns ion generators could be

1261
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,599
microwaves you know i've heard him

1262
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:17,760
mention microwaves before too

1263
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:20,880
like so i just wish that he would nail

1264
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:21,359
down

1265
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:24,640
and he could tell you exactly

1266
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,920
how he reproduces the effect so some

1267
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:29,760
shout outs apparently well the jiggy is

1268
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:30,079
here

1269
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:33,520
of mind this year

1270
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,589
uh vanessa thor is here conspiracy is

1271
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,440
here i saw jean-claude from beyond

1272
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,880
mystic earlier

1273
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,559
uh he mentioned on twitter that he's

1274
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:48,319
always been fascinated by this

1275
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,240
hutchison effect and i have been

1276
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,800
um i have been fascinated by this

1277
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:56,640
huncheson effect for

1278
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,470
uh yeah jean-claude says i've seen a few

1279
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,240
youtube videos of russians creating a

1280
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:07,680
death ray type gun

1281
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,520
using parts from microwave oven yeah

1282
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,040
joe claude i once got a lot of trouble

1283
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:14,800
with my dad because i was

1284
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:18,079
uh i was picking microwaves

1285
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,040
out of the trash because they have coils

1286
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:22,960
in them

1287
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,599
and uh he was really concerned that i

1288
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,680
was going to blow myself up or something

1289
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,680
because i you know they have high power

1290
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,200
or or really

1291
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,800
electrocute myself because they've got

1292
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:34,559
high power capacitors and things like

1293
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:36,160
that you know enough about electronics

1294
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:37,200
to know

1295
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,880
that you know a capacitor doesn't

1296
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,720
discharge when you unplug it it takes

1297
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:42,400
quite a while so you could really hurt

1298
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,280
yourself

1299
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,359
my dad was pissed there's a quick deal

1300
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:47,119
with these microwaves

1301
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,910
i have a feeling that i'm going to be

1302
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,760
going through similar stuff with my son

1303
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:55,440
because he's getting very curious about

1304
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:57,520
how things work and you know

1305
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,630
yeah so any comments or questions for me

1306
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:06,000
don't have to be specifically about

1307
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,599
tonight's topic just put them in the

1308
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,319
live chat and i see prague magic is here

1309
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:12,160
prank magic i want you to come on as a

1310
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:13,680
guest can you do that

1311
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:16,720
get with me on twitter and we'll plan a

1312
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:17,119
show

1313
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:21,839
i think that would be fun

1314
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:24,880
zero point energy yes like on stardate

1315
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,000
atlantis

1316
00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:28,400
yeah you know all these guys are really

1317
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,309
right so

1318
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,240
i guess the other thing uh that i was

1319
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:38,319
thinking about the hudson effect today

1320
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:39,680
but the other thing that i'm thinking

1321
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:40,480
about is

1322
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:43,680
is the new lockdowns

1323
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:47,200
uh i don't know about your state but

1324
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,000
looks like my

1325
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:50,640
state i'm in pennsylvania is going to be

1326
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:51,280
doing

1327
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:55,599
a lockdown until january at least

1328
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,240
and that means a total lockdown bars

1329
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,319
restaurants schools are going to close

1330
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:02,400
we're going to be back to you can't go

1331
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:05,520
anywhere but the supermarket and walmart

1332
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:09,680
uh and that's certainly depressing

1333
00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,400
i think that uh i think we've all had

1334
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:14,079
enough of this [\h__\h] right

1335
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:18,640
i don't know uh how anybody you know

1336
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,079
at least other countries like canada and

1337
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:23,920
europe they have given people checks

1338
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:25,599
like if they say you can't go to work

1339
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,720
for six weeks

1340
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,480
they're giving them six weeks worth of

1341
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:30,240
checks or money you know

1342
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:32,000
united states it's kind of like good

1343
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:33,359
luck

1344
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:40,870
but you know the good news is um

1345
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:44,079
i suppose that might kind of like either

1346
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,760
haven't straight given up on any

1347
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:48,000
business ideas that i have but i just

1348
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,119
kind of went

1349
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:52,640
i have to be uh nimble and virtual and

1350
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:53,599
not

1351
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,799
depend on in person you know

1352
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,799
not depend on my former business model

1353
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:00,000
which was in person

1354
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,670
oh dennis coach says four thousand

1355
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,440
dollar relief for one month

1356
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:11,280
i don't know what it is that you're

1357
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:13,040
talking about who is getting four

1358
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:14,000
thousand dollars

1359
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,599
here in the us we got twelve hundred

1360
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,079
dollars once

1361
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,400
right they talked about giving us twelve

1362
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:22,400
hundred dollars a second time but so far

1363
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:28,230
yeah conspiracy

1364
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:30,079
for that message from this person who

1365
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:33,359
claims to have recreated it

1366
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:36,400
the hutchison effect accidentally well

1367
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,760
that's another thing

1368
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:39,760
uh conspiracy if he recreated the

1369
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:42,079
hutchinson effect accidentally

1370
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:43,839
could he recreate it again and could he

1371
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:47,040
show us exactly how to do that

1372
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:48,640
four thousand dollar relief for one

1373
00:57:53,680 --> 00:58:02,230
the relief lasted i believe five months

1374
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:04,150
oh wow and that's the story i never got

1375
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:05,680
the first 1200

1376
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:09,359
well i did and uh

1377
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:12,720
what i did with it is i built

1378
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:16,400
that cabin sunroom and i think i'm gonna

1379
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:17,440
come in

1380
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:19,359
right under 1200 bucks because mostly

1381
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,559
i'm using trees and

1382
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:23,280
free windows but i still need cement two

1383
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:24,480
by fours

1384
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:27,440
screws nails you know it adds up pretty

1385
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:28,079
fast

1386
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,839
especially the two by fours the price of

1387
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:31,680
lumber doubled so

1388
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:35,200
it's great yeah most western countries

1389
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,000
recovering at least

1390
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:38,400
85 percent of wages except for the

1391
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:39,599
united states

1392
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,400
and also bunia if you happen to be the

1393
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,079
sole proprietor of a business in the

1394
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:45,839
united states you don't get any of the

1395
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:47,839
unemployment or anything so you're just

1396
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:51,440
[\h__\h] so i uh i'm just [\h__\h]

1397
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,319
that's basically that's the gist of what

1398
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:56,079
i'm learning from my government

1399
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:00,559
i'm just [\h__\h] um but you know

1400
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,040
i am for one trying to uh have an

1401
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:05,440
attitude of gratitude i'm very lucky

1402
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:07,280
you know i have great wife great two

1403
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:08,799
beautiful children

1404
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,760
and i'm kind of i'm kind of a nerdy

1405
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:13,520
introvert anyway i don't want to go

1406
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,319
anywhere

1407
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,880
so i'm trying to remind myself to just

1408
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,960
get back into old

1409
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,240
hobbies you know i'm going to be

1410
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:22,079
building these crystal power cells in my

1411
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:24,000
garage i'm trying to build a little shop

1412
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:24,960
in there

1413
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:31,109
i can do another i can do this you know

1414
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:32,000
i can go nowhere

1415
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,920
till january i'm i guess i'm okay with

1416
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,599
that it's just kind of depressing that's

1417
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,200
why i thought we were

1418
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:39,359
rounding the curve right is that what

1419
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:41,040
they call flattening the curve i thought

1420
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,319
we've already

1421
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,000
flattened the curve and we were rounding

1422
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:45,680
the corner that's the statement

1423
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,630
yes steve b nimble steve be quick

1424
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:56,480
steve needs some money send me some

1425
01:00:00,490 --> 00:59:58,000
paypal

1426
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:00,500
you pricks

1427
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,280
[Music]

1428
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:05,680
yeah so uh i don't know if everybody can

1429
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:06,880
mention in the live chat

1430
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:09,200
oh yeah the jonas side says new lockdown

1431
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:14,000
washington until december 14th so far

1432
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:17,040
yeah uh but uh

1433
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:19,440
mr fauci has said that things will not

1434
01:00:24,510 --> 01:00:21,280
be returning to normal until

1435
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:24,520
probably the third quarter of

1436
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:28,400
2021 right so we may not

1437
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:31,599
be able to get back to our pre-covered

1438
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:34,319
existences until labor day or something

1439
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:35,599
like that

1440
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:38,960
and i you know the other thing that

1441
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:39,359
really

1442
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,680
is kind of scary is that suddenly the

1443
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:43,680
government has the right to tell me who

1444
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:45,040
i can have

1445
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:47,839
at my thanksgiving dinner table or who i

1446
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:48,640
can have

1447
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:51,760
at my christmas dinner you know

1448
01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:54,079
and that's just strange to me it's like

1449
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:56,240
you woke up in the [\h__\h] twilight zone

1450
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:57,680
here and some way the government's going

1451
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:58,799
to tell you

1452
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,559
when you can have thanksgiving if you

1453
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:01,839
can have thanksgiving

1454
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:03,920
right you're just like christmas is

1455
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,000
cancelled ba humbug

1456
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,160
you know and uh this whole year

1457
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:10,720
especially if you have children

1458
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:12,960
right like i i know some of you have

1459
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:15,280
children i know vanessa thor does

1460
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:19,119
and look you've got to

1461
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:21,119
still make a life for your children

1462
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:22,720
during all of this

1463
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:26,000
so you know like halloween was

1464
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:29,440
weird because basically we still trick

1465
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:31,599
or treat it but it was just strange

1466
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,280
because basically people sat

1467
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:38,000
10 feet away and they put like a basket

1468
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:40,160
of candy out for the kids

1469
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:43,520
and it just felt it just felt wrong it

1470
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:45,119
felt weird you know and i'm trying to

1471
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,960
tell my kids to say thank you

1472
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:48,720
but they can't they can barely see the

1473
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:50,559
people that they're there's thanking

1474
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:52,640
because they're so far away

1475
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,960
it was bizarre it was just bizarre but i

1476
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:56,559
was still thankful that they could do

1477
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:58,400
that and then we had like a halloween

1478
01:02:03,349 --> 01:01:59,680
party at our house

1479
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,359
and you know halloween monster mash

1480
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:05,280
music and all that kind of stuff because

1481
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:06,880
you still have to make some kind of a

1482
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:08,880
life for your children during all this

1483
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:11,599
mess i don't want them to you know

1484
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:13,280
luckily

1485
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,760
i i think that my older son could care

1486
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:18,079
less like he's happy as long as he's got

1487
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:21,200
snacks and you know he doesn't care uh

1488
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:22,960
about going to school not going to

1489
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:25,280
school i don't think he cares but i

1490
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,920
think he does

1491
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:28,079
better in life in general when he goes

1492
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:29,200
to school because they have all these

1493
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:30,000
activities

1494
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:32,079
and things for him and most of you know

1495
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:34,240
he's autistic so he needs that sensory

1496
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:35,440
room they have there

1497
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:38,559
and therapy that he gets at school he's

1498
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:39,280
just

1499
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:41,520
better off going to physical school but

1500
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:43,280
now they're shutting down the schools

1501
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:46,799
so he'll be home 24 7 again

1502
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,000
but i don't i i my

1503
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:52,319
younger son is four and i don't want him

1504
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:54,079
to even remember this

1505
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:57,520
you know it made me upset uh

1506
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,839
one day he said daddy maybe when the

1507
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,280
germs go away

1508
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,280
we can go back to the playground he

1509
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:04,880
hasn't been to a playground in like a

1510
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:05,280
year

1511
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:07,119
you know since this started because my

1512
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:08,960
wife is like no somebody with kovic

1513
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:10,640
could sit on the swing or

1514
01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:14,079
you know sneeze on it or so

1515
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:16,160
we he hasn't been to a playground

1516
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:17,839
luckily i built a playground for them at

1517
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:18,880
the cabin but

1518
01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:20,559
you know it's all of these different

1519
01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:21,920
things that are just

1520
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:24,400
bizarro right now they're just it's just

1521
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:30,390
oh okay dennis i didn't know you were in

1522
01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:32,640
canada yeah canada took care of you guys

1523
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:33,039
right

1524
01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:35,119
true gave people four thousand dollars a

1525
01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:36,559
month to get through the lockdown sorry

1526
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,039
it was 2 000. there are two people here

1527
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:41,039
all right so you got so you and your

1528
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:42,480
wife right each got

1529
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:44,640
you each got two thousand that's fair

1530
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:47,119
you can you can survive until you can go

1531
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:48,400
back to work on that

1532
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,960
but the united states here's twelve

1533
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:52,400
hundred dollars

1534
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,799
we're gonna have you locked down i think

1535
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:56,960
i don't know how long the lockdown was

1536
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:59,200
it was like six months though really

1537
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:01,039
until they started opening up

1538
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:03,680
some things like restaurants at 25

1539
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:06,240
capacity and things like that

1540
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:08,720
all that we had open was home depot

1541
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:09,680
lowe's

1542
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:12,720
supermarkets and the beer store

1543
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:26,390
which again was bizarre

1544
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,000
so canadians get relief and those who

1545
01:04:31,510 --> 01:04:30,000
are still unemployed and still need

1546
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:31,520
relief will enhance their unemployment

1547
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:32,799
insurance yeah

1548
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:35,760
good for them consolidate the middle

1549
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:37,599
class to a steaming pile of [\h__\h] thanks

1550
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,240
government

1551
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,480
yeah and that's who trouble minds that

1552
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:42,559
is who this is affecting most the middle

1553
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,119
class

1554
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,960
the super rich don't care they've got

1555
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:46,319
everything they've got

1556
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,359
you know they don't care

1557
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,960
and they also think that they're not

1558
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:52,480
included you know we have

1559
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:56,160
various examples of you know like uh

1560
01:05:00,950 --> 01:05:00,160
you know rich people just doing what

1561
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:00,960
they want

1562
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:04,400
you know like the governor of michigan's

1563
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:07,119
husband was caught voting you know like

1564
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,880
he's out on his yacht

1565
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:11,280
when he's supposed to be in lockdown and

1566
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:12,880
nancy pelosi

1567
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,680
going to get a haircut when nobody else

1568
01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,599
is allowed to and things like that

1569
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:19,839
i guess if you got money you can you

1570
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:21,920
know the lock down doesn't really matter

1571
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:23,039
to you

1572
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:25,119
and the poor stay poor through this

1573
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:26,960
whole thing right that's not going to

1574
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:27,760
change so

1575
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:29,520
it's basically the middle class that's

1576
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:32,079
most effective they're destroying

1577
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:33,920
mom and pop businesses right now

1578
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,960
destroying them with these lockdowns

1579
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:38,319
i don't know how they expect people to

1580
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:40,480
survive you know

1581
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,160
and i don't even like to i try not to

1582
01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:46,559
i don't even want to really it's this is

1583
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:52,870
i uh occasionally a business owner

1584
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,720
that i know will talk to me about the

1585
01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:56,319
troubles that they're facing and it just

1586
01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:57,200
depresses me

1587
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,880
because i feel terrible for these people

1588
01:06:01,589 --> 01:06:00,319
such empathy for them

1589
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:01,599
they built this whole business their

1590
01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:03,200
whole life it was their dream to build

1591
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:04,880
this business business was doing

1592
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:08,400
good before covet covet comes

1593
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:10,640
you're done you know i know somebody

1594
01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:13,280
with a uh

1595
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:15,200
you know if certainly restaurants are

1596
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:16,400
affected you know they

1597
01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:18,559
and they have to again i guess be nimble

1598
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:19,520
you got to go to take

1599
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,960
out so that you could still make a

1600
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,799
living and feed your family

1601
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:25,440
but what really bothers me is things

1602
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:31,270
the government saying that you can go to

1603
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:34,000
walmart and buy groceries but you can't

1604
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:34,400
go

1605
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:37,440
to your local deli right the local deli

1606
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:38,559
had to shut down

1607
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:41,920
which isn't fair or you can go to

1608
01:06:45,589 --> 01:06:44,319
home depot but you can't go to a

1609
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:45,599
mom-and-pop shop

1610
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:48,400
owned hardware store you know it's just

1611
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:49,039
bizarre

1612
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,079
like okay so there's no coven in walmart

1613
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:54,240
and home depot but there's covid in my

1614
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,039
local

1615
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:57,599
mom-and-pop shop owned hardware store

1616
01:07:04,150 --> 01:06:58,240
makes

1617
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:04,160
and the other thing is i don't want to

1618
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,000
get into a debate about masks or no

1619
01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:08,160
masks my thing is just where it can't

1620
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,720
hurt

1621
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:10,240
but one of the things that's confusing

1622
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:13,119
to me is you know

1623
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,960
everybody's wearing masks now and the

1624
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:16,480
numbers keep going up

1625
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:19,280
not down which doesn't make any sense to

1626
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,200
me

1627
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:23,760
okay so dennis coach says yeah parts of

1628
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:25,599
canada may go back to lock

1629
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,160
back into lockdown yeah this is

1630
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:30,480
depressing

1631
01:07:40,829 --> 01:07:36,870
yeah trouble minds you can go to a

1632
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:40,839
protest but you can't go to church

1633
01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:42,640
exactly

1634
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,799
and wasn't there one there was a

1635
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:46,400
minister

1636
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:49,839
who held services outside of his church

1637
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,520
and they called it a big they said this

1638
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:53,440
is a protest

1639
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,920
i try to get around it right and i don't

1640
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:57,440
blame that guy

1641
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,960
yeah i'm not even religious and that

1642
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:00,720
pisses me off

1643
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,079
i uh used to go to a uh a place for

1644
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:05,760
meditation and i haven't

1645
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:08,160
since this started i haven't been to any

1646
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:09,440
church service or any

1647
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:12,400
spiritual you know and you would think

1648
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:13,359
during this

1649
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:16,000
time troubled minds people need some

1650
01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:18,080
sort of spirituality to help them deal

1651
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:19,040
with depression

1652
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:22,080
and and the uh and the isolation

1653
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:24,880
that all this is causing and the mental

1654
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:27,600
problems that all of this could cause

1655
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:30,239
i'm really concerned that this second

1656
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:31,040
lockdown is

1657
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:33,759
really going to just put the nail in the

1658
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:34,480
coffin of

1659
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:36,239
many of these businesses that are barely

1660
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,759
barely holding on and that's a sad thing

1661
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,440
you know like i said these people built

1662
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:43,199
this business it was their dream you

1663
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:44,799
know they work so hard to build a

1664
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:46,000
business and then the government just

1665
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:47,520
comes in and says no

1666
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:50,000
you gotta shut down for six months good

1667
01:09:02,430 --> 01:08:59,749
oh yeah i said conspiracy all the time

1668
01:09:03,669 --> 01:09:02,440
boy i've read that really wrong

1669
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:03,679
conspiracy

1670
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:07,040
okay i get it now i apologize i'm glad

1671
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,319
you pointed that out or i would have

1672
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:10,000
been saying your name wrong forever

1673
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,789
i like uh the wrath of khan that's one

1674
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:23,759
of my favorite movies right

1675
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:32,149
on a serious note the suicide rate is up

1676
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:33,120
yes and so

1677
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:36,560
is levels of alcoholism levels of drug

1678
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:37,040
use

1679
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:41,359
things are up

1680
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:44,000
right now so it really is a case of the

1681
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:44,880
cure

1682
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:49,199
might be worse than the the disease

1683
01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:51,040
wait what is it the cure is worse than

1684
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:52,640
the disease you know

1685
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,719
like and

1686
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:58,000
one of the things that's very

1687
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,159
conspicuous just

1688
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:01,600
none of this makes any sense to me

1689
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:02,800
here's something that doesn't make any

1690
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:04,000
sense to me we've got

1691
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:06,800
all these therapeutics now right and i

1692
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,760
believe that

1693
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:10,080
the death rate is going way way down

1694
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:11,679
because now we've got these antibody

1695
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:14,239
treatments we've got

1696
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:17,360
you know hydrochloric queen and and

1697
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:20,640
respiratol or from deservier

1698
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,840
um and i know uh

1699
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:26,000
a few people that got co-bit and they

1700
01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:27,520
got rim deserve here and they felt

1701
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,040
fine in two days so

1702
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,880
i think this overreaching an

1703
01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:34,480
overreaction

1704
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:38,239
again part of me goes

1705
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:39,920
it's better be safe than sorry i'm not

1706
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,520
going anywhere i don't want to be around

1707
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:43,440
anybody

1708
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:46,880
because i figure the the more i can

1709
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:47,520
reduce

1710
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:50,640
my exposure to other people the safer

1711
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,080
that my family will be my son has asthma

1712
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:56,800
he's high risk you know i have previous

1713
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,199
health

1714
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,040
conditions i could be considered high

1715
01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:00,960
risk um

1716
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:04,159
and it's a crapshoot right like some

1717
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:05,600
people get this thing

1718
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,360
and it's like a mild cold and they're

1719
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,600
over in a few days or a week and they

1720
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:11,199
feel fine after that and then some

1721
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:12,239
people get it

1722
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:14,159
i have one old friend that got it and

1723
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:15,440
he's still

1724
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:18,000
having trouble breathing and it did lung

1725
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:18,640
damage

1726
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,000
doctors think and

1727
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,159
he's gonna have long long term health

1728
01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:26,560
effects and he was sick for like a month

1729
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:29,679
with it originally and this um

1730
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,360
health effects have lingered on so it's

1731
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:33,440
really like a crapshoot

1732
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,040
i don't want to be one of those people

1733
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,960
that gets it and is really really sick

1734
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:37,920
or god forbid

1735
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:41,199
deathly ill or die over it so

1736
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:43,120
for me i'm airing on the side of caution

1737
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:45,280
reducing my exposure to

1738
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:54,870
it is criminally insane to have a health

1739
01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:56,480
system run by insurance and pharma

1740
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:57,199
companies

1741
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,880
that i will agree with you i don't think

1742
01:12:01,270 --> 01:12:00,560
insurance companies should have anything

1743
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:01,280
to say

1744
01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:04,239
about what you need if the doctor says

1745
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,679
you need a certain surgery

1746
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:07,520
you get the surgery they shouldn't be

1747
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:09,280
allowed to like negotiate

1748
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,880
things like well you know that's an

1749
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:12,560
expensive surgery

1750
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:15,840
uh you know or i remember because of the

1751
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,320
brain aneurysm i needed a lot of mris

1752
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,640
and mris are expensive as hell so the

1753
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:22,239
insurance company was arguing with the

1754
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,880
doctors

1755
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:24,800
and the doctor had to push them like he

1756
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,719
needs the mri

1757
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:29,120
he's got to get an mri every this this

1758
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,920
many months

1759
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:31,440
so that we can check and make sure that

1760
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:33,280
everything is okay and

1761
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:35,040
yeah and that pissed me off like you pay

1762
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:36,400
for this health insurance then you have

1763
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,520
a health problem and they don't want to

1764
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:39,679
provide the services or pay for them

1765
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,360
they're already taking that check every

1766
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:43,280
month though right

1767
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:45,760
i was starting my own costume business

1768
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:48,719
back in 2017 broke my ankle in 2018

1769
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,199
in 2019 two surgeries and this year i

1770
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,679
was supposed to kick ass

1771
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:56,719
yeah i know how you feel right yeah i

1772
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:57,840
was feeling so

1773
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,719
good in february before this [\h__\h] hit i

1774
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:02,400
was feeling really good and

1775
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,480
positive about my financial outlook for

1776
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,080
the this year

1777
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,550
probably my worst year of uh

1778
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:15,040
make for financial you know like the

1779
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:15,760
worst

1780
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,600
income that i've had i can't even tell

1781
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:21,440
you in how long like i probably made

1782
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:22,400
more money

1783
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:25,199
when i was 16 working some [\h__\h] retail

1784
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:25,760
job

1785
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:28,239
than i did this year and that's terrible

1786
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:29,520
to admit but

1787
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,390
yes something to do with type o blood

1788
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:37,520
being more robust

1789
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:40,480
versus covet trouble minds i'm not sure

1790
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,239
which one of the blood types is it

1791
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,560
that people have the hardest time with

1792
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:46,400
covid because that's the one that i've

1793
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:47,600
got the one that

1794
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,520
they said people with that blood type

1795
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,199
have the worst time with govid

1796
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:53,600
that's another reason why i'm like very

1797
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,360
being overly cautious and i'm trying not

1798
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:57,920
to become a germaphobe but i kind of am

1799
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,040
you know like i got hand sanitizer

1800
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,120
anytime i get out of my car and touch

1801
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:05,199
anything like a mac machine or

1802
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:08,560
atm buttons or you know

1803
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:11,679
a gas pump whatever if i touch anything

1804
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,800
i am spraying down my hands with this

1805
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,719
hand sanitizer and all that kind of

1806
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:18,320
stuff and i've

1807
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:20,000
definitely washed my hands more than i

1808
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:22,480
ever had in my life

1809
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:26,239
but i will say this i have not even had

1810
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:28,400
the sniffles really

1811
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:31,440
oh no i that's not accurate i guess

1812
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,719
i had a sore throat for like a day and a

1813
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,560
half and i got really nervous with that

1814
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:38,159
sore throat thinking that it was

1815
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:40,880
the onset of covet but other than a sore

1816
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:42,480
throat for a day and a half

1817
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:46,000
and since march nothing no sniffles

1818
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:49,360
nothing no and when you have kids

1819
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,800
i guess it's because they haven't been

1820
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:52,080
going to school because you know kids

1821
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:53,840
are just like germ factories and i used

1822
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,880
to get sick

1823
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:56,719
once a month it felt like with these

1824
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:58,080
kids they were always

1825
01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:00,080
bringing stuff bringing the bugs home

1826
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:02,159
stomach viruses flu

1827
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:05,440
colds constantly had cold all last year

1828
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:06,800
i had cold so

1829
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:09,520
honestly uh i guess like i was saying

1830
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:10,880
you got to look on the bright side of

1831
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:11,280
things

1832
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:13,760
this is the healthiest that i've been in

1833
01:15:18,550 --> 01:15:15,440
a year probably

1834
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:18,560
um of course i'm probably

1835
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,560
i mean this is the least sick that i've

1836
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:22,080
been i'll say that not the healthiest

1837
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:23,440
that i've been because i'm sure that i'm

1838
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,000
drinking too

1839
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:27,199
much and uh smoking too much

1840
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,040
and uh yeah i'm trying to switch to

1841
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:31,679
these vapes it's not working

1842
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:34,480
it's not taking but i keep on going you

1843
01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:37,280
know trying that

1844
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,880
same thing happened to me mris

1845
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,640
monitoring my bone tumor for cancer

1846
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,400
insurance literally rejected every

1847
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:44,159
procedure bs yeah they shouldn't have

1848
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,760
any if the doctor says you need

1849
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:47,360
something you should just be able to get

1850
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,239
it they should have

1851
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:50,159
nothing to say about it just pay the

1852
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:51,679
[\h__\h] bill that's what

1853
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:56,000
insurance is for it's just like uh

1854
01:16:02,310 --> 01:15:59,120
it's just like auto insurance i remember

1855
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:02,320
my mother's car got totaled uh somebody

1856
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:03,280
hit her

1857
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:05,840
and totaled the car like it was pretty

1858
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:07,360
obvious that the car could not be

1859
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,400
repaired

1860
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,480
they just came out and decided that like

1861
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:12,400
the car was only worth 800

1862
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,239
or something because it had high mileage

1863
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:16,239
now and i was like that's crazy

1864
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:19,040
like the blue book is like at least 2

1865
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:21,360
500 you can't just give us 800

1866
01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:22,640
and they were like no that's what we're

1867
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:24,400
giving you take it or leave it

1868
01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:25,920
and you don't have any say in this and

1869
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:27,679
there's no recourse there i thought

1870
01:16:32,270 --> 01:16:29,920
jesus that's [\h__\h] because that's the

1871
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:32,280
first you know my mother was like

1872
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,800
67 or something and that was the first

1873
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:36,800
accident she'd ever been in

1874
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,280
never needed insurance ever and by the

1875
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,040
way i think the person that hit her

1876
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:43,440
had no insurance so it had to go to ours

1877
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:44,159
she had

1878
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:45,920
full coverage on this old piece of crap

1879
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:49,440
car only gave her 800 bucks

1880
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,840
then his coach a and b now i don't

1881
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,280
remember i think i have

1882
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,840
blood type b i think i always have to

1883
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,600
ask my wife i don't know

1884
01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:59,760
but i have whatever the blood type is

1885
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,199
that people have the worst

1886
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,679
worst time with covid that's that's the

1887
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:05,840
blood type i have so that makes me

1888
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:08,159
more nervous i suppose that i should be

1889
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:09,520
about contracting

1890
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:13,440
coven impossible to say with all the

1891
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:16,239
partisan framing of a pandemic

1892
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:19,520
yeah and uh looks like trump's

1893
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,440
uh not trump biden's uh pandemic advisor

1894
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:25,440
is saying well we should at least do a

1895
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:26,560
six-week national

1896
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:30,159
nationwide lockdown um

1897
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:31,840
so the lockdowns are coming the

1898
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:34,320
lockdowns are coming you know

1899
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:36,880
they're definitely coming uh looks like

1900
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:38,480
some states have already started new

1901
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:40,159
jersey new york

1902
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:42,640
uh michigan's just i think they're still

1903
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:44,080
locked down i don't know i think they're

1904
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:45,600
gonna be locked down forever

1905
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,719
that governor is a nut job

1906
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,560
my sister has a health crisis right now

1907
01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:52,239
it could be ms but they're fighting all

1908
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:53,840
the tests she needs yeah that's what

1909
01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:54,480
they do

1910
01:18:02,070 --> 01:17:59,040
it's ridiculous

1911
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:02,080
you know uh there's this

1912
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:04,239
false belief that people in canada don't

1913
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:05,600
like their health care

1914
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:07,199
you know because socialized medicine is

1915
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,800
terrible but every

1916
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:11,199
dentist coach you're in canada how do

1917
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:12,000
you like your health

1918
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:15,600
care system like do you think that it's

1919
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:18,080
terrible and is it really true that

1920
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:19,360
people in canada when they need a

1921
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:20,800
surgery come here and pay cash

1922
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:22,400
i don't think that's true i've never

1923
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,159
heard i i don't think that's true i

1924
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:26,400
think people in canada

1925
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:27,760
like their health care everybody i've

1926
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,960
ever talked to that live in canada was

1927
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:29,920
like yeah it's great

1928
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:31,440
if i need something i just go and i get

1929
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,440
it and that's it and sure you guys pay

1930
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:35,520
slightly higher taxes but

1931
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:38,480
you know i think that's part of uh the

1932
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:39,440
you know

1933
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:41,679
it's part of just doing business it's

1934
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:43,280
part of the deal like okay i'll pay

1935
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:44,480
higher taxes but

1936
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:47,840
i won't be paying exorbitant ridiculous

1937
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:50,080
you know even just the co-pays are crazy

1938
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:51,360
sometimes

1939
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:55,440
you know i remember one time i

1940
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,040
i had to go to the i had to go to

1941
01:19:02,310 --> 01:18:59,920
emergency room and it turned out that uh

1942
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:02,320
i was having gallbladder attacks and i

1943
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:05,760
had to get my gallbladder removed

1944
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,360
and uh i think the co-pay for like each

1945
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:11,520
the co-pay for like the emergency room

1946
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,320
visit was like 800 bucks or something

1947
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,400
and that was just a co-pay you know so

1948
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:18,400
imagine what they paid the hospital

1949
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:20,080
health care system is fair yes we need

1950
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:21,360
certain list of procedures the

1951
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:23,679
government will not pay for

1952
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:25,440
what won't they pay for a dennis coach i

1953
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:26,719
thought they paid for everything

1954
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:28,480
do you mean like cosmetic surgery and

1955
01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:30,560
things like that

1956
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:32,320
i think they pay for most everything

1957
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,000
though right just like if you need

1958
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,400
surgery or heart surgery or knee surgery

1959
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or you have a broken arm broken leg

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they take care of all that right or what

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if you need brain surgery they take care

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of that right

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or cancer treatment i think they take

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care of that

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that's so funny uh conspiracy now i see

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it very clearly now that i look at your

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name i should have

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so i guess friends we're going to call

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this one a quick one and wrap things

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up tomorrow we should be returning to

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coverage

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on tomorrow we're going to be covering i

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believe

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unless we're going to skip because you

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know i'm a little add and i do that

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um we're probably going to be covering

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john bedini

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and the bidini motor and uh

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yeah i'm still trying to get an

1980
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interview with cliff high because he

1981
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is experimenting with these free energy

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devices i think that would be good

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my experience of canadian healthcare was

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great stephen i went to two-year

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university in canada with student vc

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even my

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care in canada was free wow so even if

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you're not a citizen

1989
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yeah well i guess if you've got to go to

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the hospital where you're sick you got

1991
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to get

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hereditary [\h__\h] paraplegia a genetic

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defect nope

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three million dollar treatment wow so

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they don't cover

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[\h__\h] paraplegia well that's

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canadians donated to a baby's treatment

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wow that's really sad

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yeah i wasn't aware that i'm going to

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look it up what they cover and what they

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don't cover

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yes canada will pay for visitors that's

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interesting

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wasn't so cold there dennis i'd be

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moving there right now i think i had

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enough of this [\h__\h] show called the

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united states

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and i like the wilderness but i don't

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like cold but then when i think about it

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like it's not

2011
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much colder in canada and the winter is

2012
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not that much longer in canada than

2013
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in the mountains where my cabin is so i

2014
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but in any case friends uh we're going

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to wrap things up here

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i want to thank each and every one of

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you for joining us we're going to be

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continuing our coverage of these

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strange free energy devices and these

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strange and interesting characters that

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inhabit the subculture of free energy

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devices

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i find this stuff fascinating i hope you

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do too

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um so we're going to wrap things up

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friends

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i will be back tomorrow evening

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hopefully a little bit earlier

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uh you know i had some other things i

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had to attend to today so i figured

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let's try a late show

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seems like the numbers are better

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earlier so we're going to return to i

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don't know

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probably 8 or 9 p.m tomorrow evening

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that seems to be the sweet spot for us

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uh where we get the most viewers

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so we'll be back tomorrow i did not put

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the begging bowl out today because i

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don't like to do that

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every single show i'll put the begging

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bowl out tomorrow but if you do want to

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donate there's

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links in the about section for both

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patreon and paypal

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so until next time friends my name is

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stephen campion

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